RFP for ad sales? Not necessarily a good idea

Association Media & Publishing / By Carla Kalogeridis 

Sidebar Newsletter of February 13, 2014 from Association Media & Publishing, carries an interview with Jim Elliott. Jim shares ideas to help associations improve the search process when they are looking for new ad sales representation. Even when use of an RFP is mandated, some preliminary research can help publishers save time by narrowing the field to firms that have the right chemistry, capabilities and interest-level.  Read it in full here:

 

Flexible Selling

The modern salesperson must be agile enough to address the ever-changing advertising buying process. 

President’s Letter

by Jim Elliott

For years, I have been noticing a trend in advertising sales which I have described as a transition from relationship selling to transactional selling. When I discuss this topic with publishing executives, most agree immediately, because they have observed the same change. However, some of the comments made in response to my article in the April issue of Publishing Executive led me to realize that I need to explain my thoughts more completely.   

Some readers took my use of the term “transactional” as demeaning to the role of today’s salespeople. This was not my intention—I meant to convey that the focus is moving to be more between the buyer and the product, instead of the buyer and the seller. Since it is hard to have a personal relationship with a product, “transactional” was the best description I could think of to define the seller’s position. Friendliness is still important, and rapport does certainly help, but most buyers are no longer highly influenced by their personal relationships with the sellers. If nothing else, the accountability that comes from greater use of metrics and public discussions of advertising buys work to reduce cronyism. 

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Excerpted from “How Do I Love September? Let Me Count The Magazines...”

by Samir “Mr. Magazine™” Husni, Ph.D.

September brings about the hint of autumn, the singular flutter of a yellowing leaf to the ground, depending upon where you live; I live in Mississippi—hence the singular flutter, splashes of oranges and yellows from the pumpkins and fall squash in the markets.

But most important in the world of magazines (ink on paper that is) and magazine media (everything else) it is that time of year when the crème-de-la-crème of publishing rise to the top with their most extravagant issues of the year.

And for most, September 2013 is offering their biggest editions ever. It’s a celebration of fashion, football and the fall season.

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See highlights of the 2013 Folio: MediaNext Show

The Folio: MediaNext Show held in New York October 20-22, 2013 was packed with information useful to members of the publishing community.  A complete guide to all of the events are available here, with links to many of the individual presentations. Jim Elliott's presentation, The One Constant in Media Sales: Disruption, can be viewed in its entirety here.

ACT 4: Publishing industry event hosted by "Mr. Magazine"

In November 2013, Dr. Samir "Mr. Magazine" Husni once again hosted the annual ACT event for the publishing industry at Ole Miss. 

At ACT 4, speakers included such luminaries as Billy Morris, CEO of Morris Communications, Donna Kessler, President of Morris Media Networks (publishers of 65,000,000 circulation Where Magazine) and prominent M&A advisor Reed Phillips of Desilva+Phillips, interviewed by Jim Elliott. See Jim Elliott's interview with Reed Phillips here: 

"How Magazine Publishers are Creating Value for Their Companies in the Digital Age"

Reed Phillips, CEO and Managing Partner, Desilva + Phillips
Jim Elliott, CEO, The James G. Elliott Co., Inc.
The Power of Print Integrated
Magazine Innovation Center, The University of Mississippi

See what BoSacks had to say about ACT 4 immediately afterward: conta.cc/HQp72T

Flexible Selling

In the October issue of Publishing Executive, Jim Elliott talks about flexible selling. (To see the full digitial issue click here.)

Modern salespeople must be agile enough to adapt to the ever-changing ad sales process.

For years, I have been noticing a trend in advertising sales which I have described as a transition from relationship selling to transactional selling. When I discuss this topic with publishing executives, most agree immediately, because they have observed the same change. However, some of the comments made in response to my article in the April issue of Publishing Executive led me to realize that I need to explain my thoughts more completely.   

Some readers took my use of the term “transactional” as demeaning to the role of today’s salespeople. This was not my intention—I meant to convey that the focus is moving to be more between the buyer and the product, instead of the buyer and the seller. Since it is hard to have a personal relationship with a product, “transactional” was the best description I could think of to define the seller’s position. Friendliness is still important, and rapport does certainly help, but most buyers are no longer highly influenced by their personal relationships with the sellers. If nothing else, the accountability that comes from greater use of metrics and public discussions of advertising buys work to reduce cronyism.

Some readers mistook my use of the term “transactional selling” to mean direct sales through telemarketing and call centers. Although this kind of selling is most definitely transactional, it’s not exactly what I meant. We are not advocating abandoning personal calls by advertising salespeople in all, or even most cases, or making a wholesale shift to a call center, except in very specific situations. While there certainly is something to be learned from this type of selling in terms of discipline and quantitative goals, the campaign-oriented “dialing for dollars” approach requires a different mindset than longer-term key account development.

The larger point is that sellers need to sell the way the buyers want to be sold. This concept is as old as selling itself, but one which salespeople forget at their peril. The changing nature of the advertising buying process has resulted in buyers with all sorts of different expectations.    

I believe that the most important skill a seller can have is flexibility. There is an old saying: to the man who only has a hammer, everything looks like a nail. We must choose the right tool at the right time depending on the signals the buyer is sending.

Even within one account, with several planners and buyers involved, there may be a dozen different preferences. Some agency people want to receive everything via email. Most only want to hear from the salespeople when something occurs that is related to a current buy. Some buyers want short phone contact. Others want annual in-person presentations.  Many rely on social media to varying degrees.

Most client ad managers let their agencies screen out unwanted sales approaches, and some of them may still be open to personal calls or even entertainment from time to time, especially with salespeople who do a lot of business with them. Sometimes even golf, or sailing, or tennis, or dinner still might be called for. You just never know.

Whenever possible, we try to get our salespeople face-to-face with buyers, not only because that is the most productive way to make a strong impression, but also because that’s by far the best way to pick up information about their preferences and their current state of mind. That is why we still maintain offices in the major advertising centers.

Sellers should embrace a philosophy of selling to advertisers the way they want to be sold. I realize this sounds very simplistic—but as a former buyer, and a manager of many ad sellers over the years, it isn't. Not every seller is equipped to do this.

The need for versatility has complicated the recruiting process. Not many years ago, it was fairly easy to pick highly successful ad salespeople for major magazines out of a crowded agency lobby. All you had to look for were the well-turned-out people with great social skills.

In the current environment, we are looking for more agility: people who can sell transactionally by phone or email, are adept at social media and have the ability to nurture relationships when it’s appropriate. In addition to telephone and in-person interviews, I’ve employed a psychologist for the past two decades to help me before we make an offer. (We also use the Sixteen Personality Factor Questionnaire or 16PF.)

To judge a prospective seller’s agility we look for proven success on complex assignments. This provides us with some reasonable assurance that the person has the capacity for an account that will surely require more complex selling. We don’t have a single assignment today where the publisher isn’t thinking about changes to their products that will invariably add to the seller’s challenge.

This new breed of salesperson must be able to express herself in writing, and understand and be able to communicate mathematic concepts quickly. There are two methods we use to gauge a person’s mathematic ability. First, the 16PF testing includes some basic math problems. It’s a simple screen but one that’s very telling. In addition, every interview today includes discussions around pricing since price is an essential part of every selling situation, especially since the publishers’ product menus have become longer with varying audience sizes, product frequencies and, hence, costs.

We find that writing skills are easy to judge because candidates have multiple opportunities to express themselves throughout the application process: the cover letter, the thank-you note after the initial interview, and perhaps the most overlooked tool—the interview itself. When you have a candidate who butchers syntax in a face-to-face or phone interview, you can be sure that person will be equally troubled with the written word. And, poorly crafted proposals always have a predictable ending.

I will probably continue to say that we are moving from relationship selling to transactional selling, but in essence what I mean is we are renewing our effort to sell the way buyers want to be sold. These days, that means a lot less emphasis on old-fashioned relationships.

The Current State of Advertising: Branding or Price?

Why price-based ads will give way to brand advertising in the rebounding economy.

President’s Letter

by Jim Elliott

I predict we are going to see a major shift in advertising. Advertising is unique when compared to other businesses, in that it is one of the fastest areas to react to macro-economic environmental changes. In my 40 years of experience, I’ve witnessed trends come and go. In a growing economy, price-based advertising will see a modest decrease, while brand advertising will see an increase.

The environmental change I speak of concerns the latest trends in the economy. Despite our relatively high unemployment of 7.6% (source: The New York Times 6/7/13), we have seen a great improvement since 2008. When the great recession hit, we saw an immediate conversion to price-based advertising. Advertisers tried to convince consumers to buy their products in the face of huge uncertainty.

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The Power of Print Goes to Finland

How was your trip to Finland?

Jim Elliott: It was a great trip. It was really wonderful to reconnect with a couple of executives from Otavamedia I had met a few years ago at Samir Husni’s ACT conference in Oxford, Mississippi. The purpose of the trip was to speak to the Otavamedia clients who, incidentally, were the majority of the advertisers in the nation of Finland. 

The subject of my speech was: The state of magazines in the United States, and how they integrate with digital. In order to prepare, I had to learn about Finnish publishing. I found their industry to be really interesting. It was the first time in my career that I deep dove into the character of a foreign country’s publishing market.

What did you find? 

JE: Finland is by far a smaller country with a population of 5.5 M. It has a 100% literacy rate and hardly anyone is without a college education. I was surprised to find that they have the highest per-capita readership of magazines in the world.

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The Importance of I.T.

by Victor Avalos

Modern companies in the information economy rely on actively engaged Information Technology departments.  Superior design and execution of information systems can confer significant competitive advantage. IT teams should be able to listen and adapt to deliver the right tools at the right time to do the right work. For example, today, everyone is focused on mobility. Technology can effectively make the resources of an entire office available for use by remote employees at any time. The significance of having an IT team that recognizes the business potential of providing sales reps with the right tools to best adapt to their environment is undeniable, just as it is vital to keep confidential corporate information secure.

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The Power of Print in Finland

On April 23, Jim Elliott was honored to deliver the presentation,"The Power of Print in the Digital Age," to many advertisers and staff of Otavamedia Oy, one of Finland's largest publishing houses. 

The Finns are avid magazine readers and consumers: Finland has the highest percentage in the world of magazines delivered by subscription. "We have much to learn in the US from the Finns about magazines, particularly on the circulation side of our business" was Jim Elliott's reaction after his visit. More on this visit in the next newsletter.

The Advertising Sales Game Has Changed: Do You Have the Right Players on Your Team?

President’s Letter

by Jim Elliott

(This article ran in the April issue of Publishing Executive Magazine.)

Transaction-oriented salespeople are surpassing those who base their approach on building relationships. For most of the past century, relationships formed the basis for the majority of large advertising sales.  Success in advertising sales was predicated on the ability to initiate, form, and maintain personal relationships with buyers.  In this new era, a different skill set is necessary.

Today, the buy may be accomplished before the parties even have an opportunity to meet.   Too often, trying to sell by first building relationships, as it was done in the last century, means wasting time on people who may not want any kind of relationship.  If done poorly, buyers may perceive the attempt to create a relationship as wasting their time as well.   Buyers are frazzled by the proliferation of media and demands by all the new sellers who want “just a few minutes” of their time.  Concurrently, the ranks of agency buyers are thinning as their load grows, with each person responsible for evaluating and buying as much as an entire team did not long ago.

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Resources I Find Helpful

Someone recently asked me what resources I find helpful in keeping up with the constantly changing media landscape.  Here are a few: 

  • The first is feedback from our salespeople, who have been selling many different media brands over the course of several decades.  As new opportunities emerge, we have people on the front lines trying to sell them, and to build integrated proposals involving them.  In order to help our salespeople separate valuable information from the white noise they inevitably get when presenting new ideas, we need to stay ahead of the curve.
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Work from Home?

Recently, Best Buy and Yahoo! Inc. curtailed their work-from-home programs.  That makes sense to us.   All Elliott Company offices in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles are located in downtown business districts, and we require our salespeople to use these offices. When we interview candidates for open positions, they often ask us why, citing mobile technologies and business trends that have made working from home acceptable.  Several other sales organizations allow it, so they think we should too.

We have consistently followed this policy since the founding of the company, and have no plans to change because our management really knows what it’s like to sell advertising.  It can be stressful, and a supportive social environment helps.  Day after day, our salespeople have to jump through agency hoops.  They hear the word “NO!” more than they would like.  They get beat up and pushed around.  To keep our salespeople positive, we want to surround them with encouraging energy and helpful ideas.  It’s easier to keep morale high when salespeople are located together.  Also, we share leads and information better when the process is face-to-face and informal.  It’s no more complicated than that.

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Help Buyers Buy

President’s Letter
by Jim Elliott

Sometimes publishing companies neglect the little things that might make it easier for buyers to buy.  With all of the technological reasons to create a workflow that works better for the publisher, it is too easy to forget to put the buyer experience first.  One of our clients, Jeffrey Stoffer of The American Legion, thought our readers would find it helpful to learn about his experience when he tried to execute a buy within a single day in several local markets. I hope you find it interesting, and would appreciate hearing from you.—Jim Elliott

Excerpts from an email from Jeffrey Stoffer, Director, American Legion Magazine Division, reprinted with permission: 

I have spent much of the day trying to place advertising in eight regional markets across the United States – urban, suburban and rural – and I have some thoughts.

I have searched the web looking for print and digital opportunities to promote the live webcast of The American Legion Baseball World Series. I have been trying to place ads in Milford, Conn., Florence, S.C., Omaha, Neb., Bellevue, Wash., Brooklawn (Gloucester County) N.J., Moline, Ill., New Orleans and Lakewood, Calif. The easiest placements, not surprisingly, were in the smallest markets.

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Wish you could have been there!

by Jim Elliott

Mr. Magazine™ has done it again: Dr. Samir Husni’s ACT Experience events are getting better each year.  For the publishing leaders who attended ACT 3 at Ole Miss in Oxford, MS in late October, it was a chance to share ideas and to assess the current state of affairs in a unique, intimate setting.  It was great to talk with some of the biggest names in publishing in the lecture halls and at dinner side by side with highly engaged university students.   This year’s theme was, “Never underestimate the power of print in a digital age.”  

The attendees clearly believe in traditional magazines: no one talked about getting rid of ink on paper. Many speakers did talk about interesting ways to leverage their brands into new areas, including digital and mobile platforms.  Several shared their thoughts on how best to achieve a balance between digital and print.  There were a couple of digital-only publishers, but most presenters showed how they are integrating their new businesses with their print products.

It was my privilege to share the lectern with Bill Pollak, former CEO of both ALM (formerly American Lawyer Media) and the ABM (The Association of Business Information and Media Companies).  Our presentation was entitled, “What is the Power of Print in Today’s Advertising & Sponsorship Environment?” Here is a quick overview of the highlights:

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A Little Precision Would Be Appreciated

President’s Letter

by Jim Elliott

Too many analysts have jumped on the “print is in trouble” bandwagon without specifying which kind of print they mean.  Evidence that some print is doing just fine is buried by lumping dissimilar products together.  Distinctions are lost when labels like “print” and “publications” are indiscriminately and inconsistently applied to all magazines and newspapers.

Here’s a case in point.  According to Josh Sternberg’s Digiday.com article of 06.29.2012, “Print is in trouble.  That’s hardly news. What’s new is publications looking to cross the chasm and go from print-first models to online-only approaches.”  Because Dow Jones is shifting SmartMoney Magazine from print to the Web, he concludes that print is hurting.

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Beached Sales II (Getting off the Beach)

Salespeople need all the air cover they can get today. Establishing the magazine’s point of view at the industry level provides the most effective cover

by Fred Pfaff

(Click here to read Part 1 of this article)

Two months ago, I wrote: “The best air cover is establishing the magazine’s point of view at the industry level. What it stands for, why it matters, why its audience is attracted. That’s where marketing and PR people come in. The same reasons that make it tough to get a buyer’s attention let alone time—too much information, too little time—make it incumbent on media to market the ideas, people, tools and accomplishments that make them matter, and do it in more focused ways. Establish relevance and credibility before a meeting, and a rep can focus where “yes” lives—specific ways your audience can move the buyer’s brand.” 

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Yes, I’m Optimistic!

President’s Letter

by Jim Elliott

Because my company runs national advertising sales for several print and digital publications and websites, I receive daily updates from salespeople in the trenches on what is working and what is not.  Because we sell large and small publications, and large and small digital media in consumer, association and b2b media sectors, we benefit from a huge flow of information and feedback about a very diverse sample. What we see gives me plenty of reason to agree with the remarks Bob Sacks (www.bosacks.com) made at the recent Publishing Business Conference & Expo in NYC:  the business of publishing is bursting with opportunity.

Sometimes the news sounds scary; print dollars in one publication were replaced by digital dimes. We have to think strategically to make sure we find ways to make up the potential loss of revenue. Often the answer is to create packages; a trade advertiser signed off on a multi-platform sponsorship centered on webinars featuring our publisher’s editor, promoted by the advertiser’s enthusiastic bloggers and website advertising, anchored by print.

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Beached Sales

Pulling marketing and PR can leave salespeople pinned down.

by Fred Pfaff

In every time of doing more with less, it’s tempting to cut back on marketing and PR, thinking that more sellers in the field is the most efficient way to advance the business. Nothing happens without sales, goes the argument, so more feet on the street will identify and seize more opportunities. We’ll add the other fun stuff when we’re flush again, but for now we need to buckle down and pound the pavement. 

There’s a hole in that plan. Salespeople are not efficient marketing vehicles. In fact, the tighter budgets get, the more inefficient they are. The reasons have nothing to do with the role or importance of salespeople; they have everything to do with the nature of sales in the media business. 

 

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Generating Ideas

by Jim Elliott

There is never a shortage of challenges requiring creative solutions, and there are many ways to generate ideas.  As an active member for many years of TEC (The Executive Committee) and its successor, Vistage, I participated in countless brainstorming exercises with owners of mid-sized companies, who would bring their issues to the group for help.  These exercises take place in one location, with everyone in the same room, and they are conducted by professional group leaders.  

Now, to my great surprise, we read that brainstorming doesn’t work.  “Groupthink” in The New Yorker (Jan. 30, 2012), relates that experiments at Yale, Harvard and several other universities show that brainstorming (where ideas are generated rapidly by group members but not criticized) is less effective at generating ideas than either solo work or groups which debate and comment on ideas as they are proposed. Really?

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